October
2009
High Points and Stalemates (TDD Skillset Article)
Wow, you got her laughing huh? Get over it pal, there’s more to that if you want to make her your girlfriend.
This CAN BE an intermediate skill article, but I believe its important and can benefit anybody, whether they’re a beginner or not because this will show you exactly how the skillsets here are used live and in the field.
For the lucky ones that are around me more than others, they usually say one thing: That I don’t waste ANY MOVES.
You don’t see me standing around and jumping on every opportunity, opening anybody and getting in their way, but when you see me come in, 9 times out of 10 its a wrap. It may not even be a Keys to the VIP-esque interaction at first, but in the end, with my dick as my witness, I usually take it home.
More importantly, I am able to subtly set up those moves. More often than none before I even approach a girl I’ve set things up to where I have a heavily armed precedent along the way, so when I get there its as easy as breathing and even if I don’t get the reaction I want, I’ll get them either way.
I’ve seen a lot of my counterparts, especially other coaches from other schools, and they don’t have this element in their game because of two things - and its funny I’m giving their weakness away so you can bet they’ll be arguing about this on their sales pitches to you guys, but their game is heavily LINEAR and heavily REACTIONARY. Its the burden they have to pay for being such “good pick up artists.” They truly have to nitpick their performances with every girl and check their reactions and have an appropriate rebuttal for those reactions. And if you guys have been listening to us, this all contributes to an ultimate failure in the Dilutent Effect. By the way, the Dilutent Effect happens when the interaction has truly lost its true sexual or romantic purpose because of overdoing it.
Continue Reading to see how you can make these Pick Up Yahoos look like beginners by appearing to do nothing…
Here’s an example of the Diluting Effect of PUA Interactions
Wait –> Approach –> Her reaction –> My reaction –> favorable reaction from her –> My reaction –> non-favorable reaction from her –> fuck! i need to escalate –> miscalibrated statement of interest –> her going “haha you’re funny” as her statement of saying “you’re not even congruent you jack ass” –> oh fuck I’m in Defcon 5! reaction –> DILUTENT EFFECT.
Let me say this that if this is what you think game is, then good luck finding consistency. It won’t happen.
So, what are the elements of a non-wasted, calibrated, successful Interaction with a girl.
a) A Very Strong Precedent - meaning what you can set up before you even approach - Line of Sight, A Sexual Identity, Presence and a Powerful Vibe. A strong association of friends and allies.
b) Knowing High Points - Its important to know when you are at the top of the interaction. Most people don’t know when to quit, and based on that, we know what happens when they continue to force things beyond a high point. It goes down. This goes for plowing through a conversation. In most cases it ends in being diluted. There is no other way to know you’re in a high point than trusting your gut - it will tell you exactly when you’re about to over do it, and more importantly it will tell you when things are going well. Now from there you have to consciously make an action once you’re in it.
The main opponent in beginners in terms of high points is that a lot of beginners are super happy and satisfied with positive reactions and well-going conversations (bless their soul there are hundreds of these guys who won’t get laid even after Christmas). You have to fight this urge to be satisfied with it, because that is such a short-sighted game. A good mentality to have is to give yourself a mini-mental pat on the back, get the fuck over it, and go towards the goal.
Once you smell things are going well, and as hard as this may seem to you guys who finally get one of the best reactions you can get from attractive women, you need to either ESCALATE IT from there, or LEAVE IT. This prevents overdoing conversations and diluting. Once you sense the high point, its either you physically lead them somewhere or sexualize it, or even foreshadow things, or you can exercise the second best option, to say “hey I’m going to grab a buddy I see wandering around there looking for me, be back in a sec.” It’s okay to leave as well (as long as its NOT on a Stalemate - which is what happens to most guys - awkward) on a high point because when you come back you are starting at a very positive tangent - you left at the top, you get back at the top. Either way, your goal is to get to the next high point, and exercise those options again, until you reach the goal that is your MACRO PLAN (logistics).
Your goal as a TDD Student if you’re a beginner is to a) sense high points and b) act upon them, not getting carried away by the positive reactions from the woman. If you’re intermediate your job is to a) escalate through the means I have just mentioned, or b) leave but set up a natural barrier or a sexual seed planted.
As you can tell, most beginners can’t even get to this point because they don’t have the Precedent Handled - which is why you have to make sure you have your intro skills really down - getting a good vibe, practicing great body language and non-verbals, and having accurate room awareness. (All of which we teach on our Intro Seminars and Boot camps) This is also another reason to not be a pick up artist.
c) Knowing Stalemates - When I mean stalemate I don’t really mean plowing and having that awkward conversational lull. I mean stalemate when there’s really NOTHING TO DO. Its important to sense this and again act appropriately.
I know this guy who used to be a good friend of mine, and for one he can’t act sane when on a stalemate. He usually runs around the club, miscalibrating his every step, and gets in the way of whoever woman he can approach and put his “pick up skills” on. In the end, he’s really more of a reactionary player - its also the reason he doesn’t have it solid - it only looks good on that moment, but none of these girls he’s able to take home or even go out with him on a decent date.
Its important to not be an ADD kid like this guy. You have to be calm and in-control because women look for that. Women look at you the most in really awkward situations - when nothing is happening or you aren’t getting the reactions you want. They want to know that you’re not some ADD kid who will jump on just any situation and that you are patient.
This is where the second element of my game comes into play. I can sense when this is about to happen. How? When I’ve delivered everything I was supposed to - my sexual vibe, my foreshadow, my leading, and our mutual agreement. Those are my “offense” steps. When I’ve delivered them all and I still have 1 hour or more under my clock, I am able to relax and enjoy my stalemate.
A Stalemate can be found in the following situations:
a) being with her group of friends, and she’s busy socializing
b) pulling her and her group of friends to a diner or back to the house or
c) setting this shit up like a Natural Barrier within Line of Sight (check the wiki) or
d) you’re with her in a chill environment,
During the stalemate, I’m able to use one of my favorite vibes - The Charismatic Vibe
By simple definition Charisma means personal magnetism, and if you have listened to the Foundations podcast, then you have the blue print for that. We’re going to try to up the stakes by breaking down how to use that personal magnetism in the field in the most calibrated manner.
Remember that the Charismatic Vibe will NOT illicit an instinctive sexual response from women. That’s one of the main reasons companies who market this sort of pick up approach don’t do as well in the sex department. However, it can be used during a Stalemate.
What that means is, when there are NO options to do anything proactively and when you’ve got TONS OF TIME. The best thing to do at that point is to get that personal magnetism out of your toolbox.
The main purpose of that is
a) to inspire and magnetize her friends to gain more allies
b) to fill in gaps between high points and act busy during stalemates
c) to connect with her on many levels
Remember that Charismatic Vibe starts with YOU and YOUR Belief systems. This is your opportunity to talk about what you believe in, your strengths, your weaknesses, your little quirks and what your life is about. During a stalemate you’ve got all the time to burn so talk slowly, confidently, smile and project a chill vibe. No hyper whoo-states here like the crackheads at *** (lol) The meat of your conversation is YOU. So, its imperative you really detox that PUA machination in your head, stop relying and being dependent on other people’s (weird) lives, and be strong and depend on your own life. Start focusing on living a real life on the backburner and trust me you will never run out of things to say. I truly believe having canned lines are a disease and it will be very hard to become a very good calibrated guy in the field if you’re knee deep into them. My mentor always said, “Shortcuts are for Cowards…” so don’t believe canned lines will ultimately get you what you want.
Confused? Congratulations you’re a Pee You A. Email me on how to get detoxed. Now I didn’t waste my time writing this, so you better incorporate this into your TDD Skillsets ASAP)
Talk to you guys Soon,
Troy Dizon
Another piece of the puzzle just fell in after I read this. Charismatic vibe sounds like one of the more important tools in the arsenal. Good stuff!
It has occurred to me that perhaps Troy is on to something here!
Escalate and/or get the fuck out. Leave them begging to hear more from you. Build the anticipation….
Brilliant!
GOLD… PURE GOLD…
Nash, you’re pure gold.